User and Developer feedback requested, please …
February 12th, 2008 by Ste
As you may know, I now have sponsors who are paying for the servers and bandwidth needed to keep the site running. Without them, the site would go away. They are paying a lot of money to provide this service to you, and they have requested acknowledgment of this, which I think is fair.
What I have done to accommodate that request, works, but not optimally. If you open your Installer.app, and go into any category, you will see that I added mention of the bandwidth sponsor to the start of every package’s description. In Category view, it kinda ruins any chance of seeing the first part of the package’s actual description. You may wonder why I didn’t add it to the end of the description. If I had, it would have been cut off, as the Description field is fixed length. Unfortunately, the way I have done it not only doesn’t work, in Category view, but it also robs the developers of precious space in the Description field.
I have proposed, to Nullriver, that they add another field to the package detail page. It would be called Sponsor and be located just under the Contact field and before the Description field. It would be a static display field, just like the Name field - pressing it would do nothing. Here’s a mock up of what it would look like:

This is meant to provide an unobtrusive acknowledgment of the folks who are paying the bills and a way to get their URL in front of you, in hopes that you’ll check them out. However, Nullriver has objected to this. It’s their position that this is nothing but advertising SPAM, and has no business in Installer.app. I tried to point out to them that without acknowledgment, there will be no sponsors. With no sponsors, there will be no big sites. No big sites makes it harder for people to get packages. No packages means no Installer.app. So, I suggested that I blog about it and see what you, the users and developers, think of this idea. Nullriver thought that would be an excellent idea.
Please leave your thoughts in the comments section. We look forward to hearing what you think of this.
-ste
UPDATE (2008-02-12 7:24 PM): I forgot to mention that this proposed field would be optional, in the XML file, like the “More Info” field is. If a site didn’t need to use it, they could omit it. Additionally, since it’s another point of view worth considering, I’d like to point out that two developers have told me that they object to any sponsor tag on their applications. They said, and I’m paraphrasing, here, “We donated to you and we don’t think it’s fair to have another company’s name on our package’s detail page.” My response, thus far, has been that developers who donate to me are donating for the work *I* do. Things like: cleaning up what they send me and making packages out of it; writing the XML plist files; setting up and maintaining the servers; setting up and maintaining the repository; setting up and maintaining this blog, etc. You get the idea. They are paying for my time and effort, in my opinion. The sponsors, on the other hand, are paying for the servers and the bandwidth required for the users to get access to, and download, the developer’s packages. The developers aren’t paying them to do that - no one is paying them to do that. Therefore, I think it *is* fair that they be afforded recognition on the detail pages of the apps that their hard-earned dollars are making available to everyone. -ste
UPDATE (2008-02-13 12:20 PM): Keep those comments coming in - they are all interesting and food for thought. Some people have suggested that “Sponsor” might be confusing, regarding just what it is that is being sponsored and suggested changes might be “Bandwidth” or “Hosting”. Personally, I like that idea, as it’s much clearer what is being provided. Someone suggested moving it to the “Source” section. I’m not sure if they meant the “Source” section at the bottom of every package detail page (did you even know that if you scroll that page up, that there is a “Source” section there?), or if they meant adding it to each source’s detail page found by going to Installer.app’s “Sources” page and pressing on a source’s entry. In any case, I don’t think either is the right place, for a couple of reasons: 1) no one will see them there - it’s that simple, and 2) while the argument can be, and has been, made that they are sponsoring the repository, not the developers, I think that is not entirely correct. They *are* sponsoring the developers, in that they are directly providing the servers and bandwidth those developer’s need for their users to get access to and to download their packages. The truth is, they are providing the service to both the repository *and* the developer’s. -ste
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